06-21-2024 11:55 AM - last edited on 10-18-2024 02:19 PM by Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-15-2024 09:10 AM
If ai is added I will delete everything i have stored in firefox, delete the browser, and add it to my ever growing list of disappointments that have added ai. I will find wvery single person i have ever told to use firefox and tell them to remove it as their browser. Then apologize for ever recommending firefox in the first place. Please do not add ai. i like firefox. even with it slowing down my computer a bit. the addons are all so lovely
09-15-2024 09:19 AM
Don't do it. I have seen this function on many other browsers and none of them are useful. It is one more obstacle to finding accurate information on the internet and I am sick of it.
09-15-2024 09:29 AM
Absolutely not. I started using Firefox to get away from the ai garbage on google chrome. I will find an alternative if you ruin firefox. Ai has no place in my life and if you are brain dead enough to still add this it had better be opt in not opt out.
09-15-2024 09:40 AM
LLM use is not something I want in a browser. People who want to use them can already access them elsewhere, whereas I want nothing to do with them. I find the fact that this is being tested off-putting and the lack of genuine feedback on the part of Mardak to be somewhat insulting. Keep it in an extension if you have to go this route and don't claim that it's impossible because extensions can't do enough. If that's the problem, your company has the ability to solve it. I do not want an LLM model hosted elsewhere to have access to my data and I do not want to host one on my own computer. I am going to search for alternative browsers who do not push "AI" on users because I do not trust that you will listen to negative feedback.
09-15-2024 09:48 AM
Just no. Please.
09-15-2024 10:04 AM
This is one of the few things that would make me stop using Firefox after 10+ years of using it & I would urge other long-time users like my mother, who is the one the introduced it to me & installed it on my first computer to switch to a broswer that does not include AI.
AI has a large ecological cost, and often presents misinformation when asked, which could be extremely dangerous in some cases, this misinformation happens due to a mix of poor data pools which can include even fictional sources, it also happens because AI don't understand the words we use, their model is more based off language structure, here's a article about that, and I ask if you read it, picture what would happen if someone for example asked a AI if a allergen was present and the AI produced a false negative to it's presence because it didn't actually "know" what food or allgen was being talked about.
https://techcrunch.com/2024/08/27/why-ai-cant-spell-strawberry/
09-15-2024 10:07 AM
No. Please do not.
09-15-2024 10:09 AM
Please don’t. This is literally one of the reasons I choose Firefox over all other browsers. Stop forcing crappy water-guzzling “AI services” down our throats at every opportunity—if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!
09-15-2024 10:13 AM
For the love of god no
09-15-2024 10:17 AM
C'mon, man. Firefox's best selling point is that it keeps trends like this at an arm's length. The thing that drew me and many others to Firefox was that as others "innovated" in inconvenient ways that made them a pain to use, Firefox stayed the course, and even prioritized user QoL. Don't succumb to FOMO, because there's nothing to miss out on.
09-15-2024 10:17 AM
AI is an absolute scourge of plagiarism and theft. If AI is permanent added, I will delete this browser.
09-15-2024 10:18 AM
Don't do this.
09-15-2024 10:18 AM
No.
The fact this was seen as a good idea is baffling.
09-15-2024 10:24 AM
Mozilla, do you want to use AI in firefox?
then use AI to enhance existing firefox functionality, for example pocket: it keeps showing me crap stupid articles, that have nothing to do with my interests.
so use AI, in a privacy preserving way (data never leaves my device) to scan my interests, by looking at the pages I visit, and then recommend similar pages on the internet (again, no data about my interests leaves my device).
this is an acceptable use of AI.
09-15-2024 10:27 AM
Please absolutely not, say no to ai
09-15-2024 10:32 AM - edited 09-15-2024 10:33 AM
I use Firefox to get away from AI. I don't care if it's optional I just don't want my last bastion of non-AI browsing to be threatened. Please.
09-15-2024 10:32 AM
Please don't even implement this "feature" at all. I've left Edge behind because of its constant shelling of its so-called artificial "intelligence" "tools". Generative AI and the likes are not something browsers need, and they produce a ton of waste even with a single roll. Please don't ruin Firefox. I don't want to have to switch browsers again.
09-15-2024 10:34 AM
When I moved to Firefox recently, for the first time since the early 2010s, I was not willing to accept the changes from Manifest v3 enforcement on other browsers' extensions. Myself, and many others, trusted Mozilla to increase their focus on developing their flagship browser.
As my opinion stands with others here, I fail to recognize how adding generative media tools, and other AI-generated features would benefit the common user of Firefox. We've seen several challenges that generative media is copyright infringement, and not only am I worried that Mozilla is doing something that is dangerous from a legal standpoint, I'm also worried that Mozilla has taken a lesser priority on our feedback.
Please reconsider adding this. In my eyes, it's wasteful and mostly benefits bad actors to have more accessible tools to steal others work and spread misinformation online. It is, as the tags say, out of touch with the majority of your user base, including myself.
09-15-2024 10:37 AM
I have not tried this feature. I will not try this feature, now or ever. NO AI, NO QUESTION.
09-15-2024 10:39 AM
I don’t think there’s really anything I can say that hasn’t already been said. No. Absolutely not. You could make a plugin for it, but do NOT make it a built in feature.
09-15-2024 10:55 AM
Genuinely I cannot think of a single reason why this would be necessary or how it would improve anything, nobody likes AI, nobody wants it, I have no idea how so many companies have gaslit themselves into thinking that AI is a good thing.
09-15-2024 10:54 AM
Stop
09-15-2024 11:00 AM
Absolutely not.
09-15-2024 11:11 AM
PLEASE NO! Please no don't go down the tech bro AI toilet! Don't infect the only good web browser left with an outlet to the mediocre slop machine!
09-15-2024 11:15 AM
I do not want AI features integrated into my browser. It's annoying bloatware that adds nothing of use
09-15-2024 11:19 AM
Including AI services is one of a incredibly small number of things that's making me consider another browser.
09-15-2024 11:33 AM
Terrible idea, get it away from me, moving to no Internet ever, dear god, what the hell.
09-15-2024 11:41 AM
@asafko wrote:Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
Hello,
AI can be an useful tool in certain fields, but the way we have seen it appear in browsers in the last months is far from convenient or ethical. I'm concerned about privacy, what your browser stands for, becoming compromised because of this new feature. The spread of misinformation that usually comes with automatically generated AI answers is also an issue. The ecological impact the servers will have is another. And your model, will it too be trained on the work of small writers and artists that didn't consent to have their already precarious job situation made even more difficult?
I do like Firefox, but if this is implemented I will find an alternative.
Thank you.
09-15-2024 11:45 AM
Terrible idea. I think that, at this point, it is not necessary to explain why. Please, don't do this.
09-15-2024 11:50 AM
jesus christ NO. **bleep** AI. I DON'T WANT IT IMPLEMENTED ON FIREFOX. I DON'T WANT ANY CHATGPT OR CHATGPT-LIKES ON ANY OFY SOFTWARE
A move like this WILL make me move browsers
09-15-2024 11:51 AM
I made an account purely for this. That's how strongly I feel about it
09-15-2024 11:53 AM
no thanks pls do not kill the environment for no good reason ty
09-15-2024 11:56 AM
No thank you! Not interested! Please dont become like the rest of the techbro corporations who are implementing a useless ai that does nothing but bog down the system. No one will use it because we are a demographic who is very specifically using this web browser to avoid exactly this type of thing, with most other features being added perks. It will do nothing but waste you money on an industrial scale
09-15-2024 12:09 PM
Please, please no.
09-15-2024 12:30 PM
Please don't. I have no desire for any AI services and utilize Firefox in part because, unlike Chrome, it doesn't support AI functionality. I find what we call AI to be incredibly harmful for the sake of dissemination of information, as it is prone to giving you if not incorrect information, utterly fraudulent information. The utilization of it robs creatives of their industries, it robs people of the pleasurable challenge of creativity, and it robs people of their understanding of complex systems. I don't need an AI to help me boost my productivity or access the tools I use most, I need well thought out UI that make me able to do that on my own. I'm sick and tired of AI being shoved down my throat when I think it does nothing but harm people's understanding of their world around them.
09-15-2024 12:39 PM
I don't know if you know the audience Firefox has cultivated, but it is one that is extremely anti-AI. For good reason. AI is useless and bloats software for no reason. NO TO AI!
09-15-2024 12:43 PM
Hi, please do not incorporate AI into Firefox. It undermines your goal of privacy and intellectual property protection. No one wants this.
09-15-2024 12:47 PM
Absolutely not. You're already doing one shady thing, the collecting data for advertising. Don't do this to yourselves. Don't lose the trust you've built year after year. Firefox doesn't need any AI features, I guarantee it. The people using Firefox are not looking to have AI integrated into their browsers.
You guys can do something else to gain appeal. People who you can just swing the sparkly "AI" button in front of their faces and they'll be amazed are not your audience.
09-15-2024 12:56 PM
NO **bleep** AI
09-15-2024 12:57 PM
NO. DO NOT