06-21-2024 11:55 AM - last edited on 10-18-2024 02:19 PM by Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-11-2024 05:03 PM
Why would anyone using your browser want this? The people who I know are currently moving to Firefox are doing so to avoid the stupid AI slop that are in other browsers. Don't do this.
09-11-2024 05:13 PM
Please no
09-11-2024 05:18 PM
LLM AI is nothing but automated theft, plagiarism, fraud, and erasure of the people it steals from. we demand you remove all AI functions from firefox, delete all LLMs you have, and join the fight for global criminalization of all LLMs.
09-11-2024 05:21 PM
Listen, please don't do this. That every option out there has some unethical connotations doesn't absolve us of the responsibility to try to mitigate that lack of ethics. AI (though it really isn't even that) is wildly unpopular, especially amongst the demographics that prefer Firefox over Google. It is wildly energy inefficient and has horrible effects on the environment. The way generative AI of any kind works is intrinsically tied to data and intellectual property theft. AI isn't artificially intelligent, it isn't generating unique "thoughts," it is simply scraping, conglomerating, and stealing from other media on the internet.
Additionally, when asked to generate thoughts or give ideas, it is frequently, incoherently, and egregiously wrong! It can't "interpret" the data it steals, it's just pouring word soup into a query. There is PLENTY of evidence out there to illustrate this.
Please, I know this is only an experiment, but it is an experiment based on something incredibly unpopular, unethical, and demonstrably unhelpful. I love Firefox. Do not do this.
09-11-2024 05:28 PM
I used Firefox to avoid this kind of nonsense. I knew it's not perfect, but I thought it was better. With this move, you've jumped the shark and lost any remaining trust I had in Mozilla.
09-11-2024 05:31 PM
Artificial Intelligence is NOT welcome to our service! It hacks users and fails nearly all commands and interfaces. Oracle Java6<, .Net3<, and Python3< are each terrible enough. BlackBerry OS2 is so much better than AI and all modern internet devices. Steve Jobs and Albert Einstein, who both RiP, would even agree. We are not technology's puppets! No Artificial Intelligence, especially as it is dominantly used by illegal corporations, forgers, and hackers. Right, DOS3.1?
09-11-2024 05:32 PM
NO PLEASE DON'T
Keep Firefox AI-free. AI is a garbage fire of copyright infringement, environmental destruction, and overvalued corporate swindling. If I ever see an AI button show up in Firefox I will uninstall the browser and tell everyone I know to do the same. Even if you don't understand the moral and ethical arguments against it, it's a sinking ship. Are you gonna put a TiVo button in Firefox too?
09-11-2024 05:34 PM
Absolutely fcking not. DO NOT WANT.
09-11-2024 05:43 PM
Please do not. This is my least favorite feature on websites these days, and what makes me love using Firefox is that I am not constantly confronted with the same useless garbage that has cluttered every other corner of the internet. AI has proven to be faulty and inaccurate, and often returns answers that are unsafe and liable to get somebody killed. Please say NO to AI.
09-11-2024 05:59 PM
No thanks.
09-11-2024 06:05 PM
Please no AI here. I desperately do not want my browser burning down more of the planet just to give me the world's most useless Clippy.
09-11-2024 06:08 PM
WE DO NOT WANT THIS
09-11-2024 06:23 PM
Come on, one of the reasons most ppl choose firefox over other browsers is because they didn't follow that path... this feels like a big slap to the face. Whats the point of adding this feature? who asked for this?
09-11-2024 06:25 PM
I know you're just doing your job here, but the vast majority of people do not want this and are begging y'all to be the last safe, usable space not being clogged up with AI garbage.
09-11-2024 06:33 PM
Please, for the love of the entire planet, do not under any circumstances waste time, money, and water by adding AI services to Firefox. Literally nobody wants this crap. Don't do this.
09-11-2024 06:41 PM - edited 09-11-2024 06:56 PM
This is a brilliant idea, Mozilla. Why continue to be a superlative browser that sets yourself apart from the advertiser content farm browsers of your competitors when instead you could integrate the same stupid AI junk and ruin your browser to be just like them, thus entirely removing the reason for your very existence.
You're not going to become Google, and trying just pisses off your actual users. Don't do this. I don't want to have to find another browser.
09-11-2024 06:43 PM
PLEASE DON'T. ugh. ai is NOT as great as people think it is! humans are incredibly ignorant therefore the ai that spews back all the bullsh*t we feed it is just as much so. 💀 no. don't.
09-11-2024 06:46 PM
As a longtime user of Firefox, I have absolutely no interest in any AI services. Every other company that uses AI has only made their product actively worse, so please don't. I like Firefox. It's the only browser I use and this has been true for the last, what, twenty years?
Say "no" to AI.
09-11-2024 06:47 PM
No. I will switch to another browser if you add AI. It is garbage and I do not consent.
09-11-2024 06:50 PM
I'd prefer Firefox to be completely clear of any AI garbage, thanks. If that's not possible, I'll look for alternative browsers.
09-11-2024 06:50 PM
oh Please god no 😭. I use Firefox to escape from the gradual "AI option no one wants" apocalypse.
09-11-2024 06:53 PM
i am so sick of ai please for the love of god dont add onto the garbage pile of "ai integration" with another annoying button ill never click except on accident theyre pointless just leave it alone idgaf i stg ill switch to opera gx
09-11-2024 06:58 PM
Does anybody else agree with my theory of why Mozilla Firefox should not have Artificial Intelligence? The summary is one dozen comments above. We are not robots, and Revelation proves so.
09-11-2024 07:05 PM
Terrible, terrible idea. AI (at least in the way things like ChatGPT and MidJourney operate) uses up far too much energy with little to no results of substance to speak for it.
09-11-2024 07:06 PM
please dont get into the unreliable mess of ai.
09-11-2024 07:11 PM
If Mozilla starts messing around with AI, I will no longer support Mozilla and I will find a browser other than Firefox. It's as simple as that. AI serves no useful purpose, and no one wants it; it's a tool - that can't even serve its intended purpose - foisted on a public that DOES NOT WANT IT by companies who want to recklessly jump on the bandwagon that's already wrecked on the side of the road. For all the ways in which Mozilla has shown themselves in the past to be a company that's distinctly better than many others, this signals to consumers that you WANT to be no better than the rest. No matter the form it takes, any applications of AI that have been developed in recent years plainly fail to achieve the most basic intended tasks, and the worst examples not only fail the consumers they are intended to serve, but take away jobs from real people who invariably perform the same task better in the first place. This is to say nothing of the colossal environmental havoc wrought by features that go unused by an undesirous public, the money and human resources wasted developing them, the needless costs forwarded to consumers for junk they didn't want added on in the first place, and still more. DO NOT add AI into Firefox. Toying with this garbage might be the biggest mistake that Mozilla could make, and your users are NOT happy!!!!
09-11-2024 07:25 PM
Please don't add an AI feature, guys. We use you because you're better than Google, PLEASE don't sink to their level...
09-11-2024 07:28 PM
PLEASE NO AI :)))
09-11-2024 07:41 PM
DO NOT **bleep**ING DO THIS
09-11-2024 07:51 PM
Just chiming in to say No Thanks! It's disappointing to see the AI craze has reached Mozilla too, though I shouldn't be surprised to see another company choosing greed over worker's rights and the environment
09-11-2024 07:57 PM
Hard no on adding AI features to Firefox.
Generative AI is extremely harmful to the environment, and adding this feature would only further exacerbate the issue, as it gives users easy access to AI. Additionally, it will likely lead to the spread of misinformation as these technologies are not able to problem solve and frequently make errors.
Unfortunate that this is what the web has come to.
09-11-2024 08:00 PM
Please no. I use Firefox because I care about online privacy and llms like the ones mentioned in earlier replies are antithetical to that. I don't want access to it built into my browser. I don't want to disable it I simply don't want it there. Everyone I know that uses Firefox, uses it for the same reasons that they don't use chatgpt and it's contemporaries. This honestly lowers my opinion of your product and I'll be looking for alternatives if this goes much further, and seeing how hard these ai companies are pushing their product, I'm not optimistic about how 'optional' all this will remain.
I like Firefox don't push users like me away 😞
09-11-2024 08:04 PM
Please do not do this. We don't need more "AI" slop shoved on us. Please, just no.
09-11-2024 08:08 PM
@asafko wrote:boost your productivity
This is a **bleep**ing laugh. Text-generating AI spouts utter bull**bleep** often enough that you have to double-check everything it gives you, which can easily take longer than doing everything yourself from the start. They haven't gotten any better about this over the course of the AI boom, so what makes anybody at Mozilla think it's ready to add even as a beta feature? That isn't even getting into the complaints this thread is probably already full of, like parent companies' ongoing lawsuits over copyright infringement and the wildly unsustainable environmental impact.
I've been using Firefox pretty much as long as it's been available--even when you brought on the Brave browser guy as CEO for five minutes, even when everyone else was switching to Chrome--and I can say this is easily as embarrassing as the former. The only people who want AI are grifters and the people who buy the grift, and you guys jumping on the bandwagon when you could be earning a reputation for steadfastness and consideration is enough to seriously test my loyalty.
09-11-2024 08:26 PM
I will quit using Firefox if AI features are added.
09-11-2024 08:37 PM
no.
09-11-2024 08:43 PM
keep ai out of the only good thing in tech rn
09-11-2024 08:45 PM
Noooooooooooo nooooooooo nooooo nooooooo
09-11-2024 08:52 PM
I do not like this, I am tired and exhausted of AI features; I do not use them and find them vastly ineffective. I do not want this in my browser.
09-11-2024 09:10 PM - edited 09-11-2024 09:13 PM
There are no words strong enough, in this or any language, to describe just how undesired this feature is, and just how much it is going to alienate users if it goes forward. Strongly advise completely abandoning this direction entirely.