06-21-2024 11:55 AM - last edited on 10-18-2024 02:19 PM by Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-09-2024 04:15 AM
I made a profile solely to comment on this and say:
NO. STOP.
Your user base comes to Firefox over all the other big name companies because you DON'T scrape data, because you do respect privacy. Now you want to take the first step into this overhyped, unethical, environmentally damaging world of LLMs and the con artists who are riding the wave and using them to scrape as much data and money as they can before the bottom drops out? Seriously? For what? Nobody asked for this. If we wanted inescapable LLM we'd all go back to Chrome and Safari and whatever else.
This feels like the first step towards losing the safe haven that Mozilla is. Like removing "Don't Be Evil" as a creed. Please, don't go down this road.
09-09-2024 04:16 AM
I am really concerned by the fact of not having the choice ,not to just be able to disable AI services ,but not having a AI Integration free firefox , i really believe that firefox should give the choice of a version with no AI code .
09-09-2024 04:15 AM
Jesus Christ Firefox team. Many of us have had enough of many companies adding this AI garbage to everything . This stuff is harmful to the environment, and AI is also using more resources and causing climate change to get here faster ( we already had temperatures up to 100 DEGREES). But this crap is harmful to artists, writers, and other creatives. Plus, people are making fake videos that would cause dangerous consequences ( like someone being framed for a crime they never committed).
I have been using Firefox as my go-to browser since Edge and Chrome have been implementing this AI crap, ad I do not want to use it. if you go ahead with this. I will remove your software and look for another alternative.
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09-09-2024 04:17 AM
Here's another idea: how about no.
09-09-2024 04:17 AM
Please no. I'm so tired of AI being shoved down my throat at every turn. It's a useless, false technology that does more harm than good in the creative fields. I'd rather Firefox remained AI free
09-09-2024 04:15 AM
I don't want no integration of AI of any kind in this browser.
Not even on an optional basis.
09-09-2024 04:17 AM
I do NOT want this bs, please reject it post haste
09-09-2024 04:20 AM
Nobody wants that. AI isn't actually useful for anything. It does not 'boost productivity' and it is built on violating privacy and copyright - both of which go directly against core principles of Mozilla.
09-09-2024 04:19 AM
So disappointed in the effect ai is having on the Internet. Please spare us. I also despise the wasted resources I hear about. Leave "ai" to more practical uses in a more limited scope and away from the broader Internet
09-09-2024 04:20 AM
We do not need more ai resources. This is a bad idea and I will have to fond a new browser that does not support the use of ai
09-09-2024 04:22 AM
Please do not put generative AI or AI services in Mozilla products, even as an optional feature. The lack of them is the main reason I switched over to Firefox.
09-09-2024 04:23 AM
Please understand that the users who DON'T value openness, privacy, and transparency have already left.
As for the rest o us, if you enable this garbage, we will switch it off.
If you make it mandatory, we will have no reason left to stay.
09-09-2024 04:23 AM
If you put AI in Firefox, I will stop using Firefox. AI is built on stolen data and I personally know people who have lost their jobs because of it.
09-09-2024 04:24 AM
I understand that this is a trial period but I will absolutely begin searching for alternatives to Firefox as well as cancelling my Mozilla vpn if llm/chatbot/generative ai tools are integrated into Firefox. Privacy concerns, environmental concerns, and the fact that such chatbots demonstrably obscure information and make browsing the web more confusing are all reasons I find this absolutely infuriating. I am deeply disappointed in this move by Mozilla to chase a harmful tech trend that I’m sure will soon (but not soon enough) go the way of the NFTs. Your users largely do not want this and it is not difficult to foresee it going from an optional integration to a forced one like every other tech company has shoehorned into their products. At most this should be an extension, not an integration into Firefox.
In short: NO
09-09-2024 04:24 AM
I am deeply, deeply disappointed that Mozilla is jumping on the incredibly unethical LLM train. LLMs have, as we have major and ample evidence of, are completely and utterly useless for anything resembling web searching or research, because of the incredibly high instances of hallucinated data. So Mozilla is adding something that can only be used for "fun" that comes at the cost of having to scrape as much data as possible—including copyrighted data!—and an immense waste of natural resources.
Truly cannot overstate my upset and disappointment.
09-09-2024 04:26 AM
Please do NOT add AI to Firefox, this is my last safe browser of the internet!!! AI is exhausting and legitimately dangerous in its efforts of spreading misinformation across the internet! Please please please do NOT do this!!!
09-09-2024 04:27 AM
I've been a diehard Firefox fan for a while. I believe in the core that Mozilla has established for privacy, and incorporating AI "features" would be antithetical to that mission. Please don't.
09-09-2024 04:27 AM
If you could find me literally one person who asked for this.....
09-09-2024 04:28 AM
no. make it an extension. if this is integrated into the browser, I and hundreds of thousands of others will no longer support Mozilla.
09-09-2024 04:30 AM
Please for the love of why I use Firefox in the first place do NOT drink the kool-aid of adding "AI" into the browser.
09-09-2024 04:31 AM
PLEASE NO.
Stop trying to shoehorn AI into everything!
09-09-2024 04:28 AM
Generative AI is not useful. There is no actual application for a sentence guesser that is full of internet **bleep** posts. Anything else it can do is only because a rube-goldberg machine has been dropped on top of the **bleep**post auto fill base. Unless you mean some kind of nonLLM AI, but actually useful AI is very targeted and has a specific purpose.
09-09-2024 04:32 AM
Absolutely not. AI has given me nothing and has demonstrated its general uselessness for search engines and browsers on an almost daily basis through your competition. I'm am emphatically not interested.
09-09-2024 04:33 AM
AI is garbage and kills people (see AI mushroom guides), not to mention originality and critical thought. Go back to IBM's dictate: "A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make management decisions." The world is full of lazy people with no understanding of how AI works; enabling them to offload thought of all kinds will ruin lives, careers, and public life.
09-09-2024 04:35 AM
Absolutely not. Keep this AI garbage out of the only good browser there is.
09-09-2024 04:35 AM
Although I appreciate the thought to make it optional and needing to be turned on manually, as well as not affecting any of Firefox's core functionality, I feel like this might be a highly unpopular implementation as far as the majority of users is concerned. I understand the need to keep up with technological trends, however I feel this isn't the best use of Firefox's funds and budget and those funds are better used elsewhere in Firefox's infrastructure.
Also, Ai is unreliable and eats up resources in general, and I am not comfortable implementing such a feature on a small scale, as this will inevitably lead to feature creep and runs the risk of relying too much on this unreliable AI model and having it take over more and more of Firefox's functionality over time which NOBODY wants.
Your userbase specifically uses Firefox to get away from the corporate stranglehold of other browsers and services. It would be detrimental to follow their trends when your audience is specifically here for the opposite of features like this.
09-09-2024 04:36 AM
Please don't do this.
09-09-2024 04:36 AM
DO NOT.
09-09-2024 04:38 AM
We don't need this, and the comments here make it clear that no-one wants it either. Generative AI is wildly unethical on both social and environmental levels and I'm disappointed that mozilla would even be considering throwing in with these companies considering your supposed commitment to privacy, something which AI chatbots have been shown to disregard time and again because all they are capable of is regurgitating data without context, and most of the time not even doing it accurately.
09-09-2024 04:25 AM
No thank you.
09-09-2024 04:40 AM
NO PLEASE GOD NO. no one needs AI chat functionality! I don't need to be lied to by a machine guzzling huge amounts of resources to do a task it would take me 5mins tops in a good search engine to do myself. I'm so sick of companies seeing the environmental state of the planet and going 'hey you know what would be cool? adding a fun new feature that barely works and also adds a huge extra burden onto those environmental issues'
09-09-2024 04:42 AM
also it does not matter what your AI partners have to say about privacy. I have yet to see a single AI company that actually genuinely gave a toss about privacy either of the product users, or the people online having their data scraped to use the tool (who are often one and the same group). really disappointed in this.
09-09-2024 10:53 AM
This! This! This! "Um well this company says they protect your privacy" is the most baby brained stuff, like... you'd have to be born yesterday to believe that after what we've already seen, from AI and from the entire history of corporations' online behavior in general. And if you were born yesterday, you shouldn't be working for Mozilla, child labor is illegal.
09-09-2024 04:41 AM
Please no more AI. Please.
09-09-2024 04:42 AM
Hi,
I've been using Firefox for years now. It's the only browser I actually trust at this point—pretty much everything else is Chromium-based, much to my dismay.
While I understand that the use of generative AI could possibly be a helpful tool, the question comes of: Where are you sourcing it? How is it trained? How's it getting its power? When I converse with it, where are those logs stored?
LLMs can be helpful in putting complex topics into layman's terms, but they are also frequently wrong, while being convinced they're right. It's that vast possibility for misinformation in conjunction with the dubious morality of its source that leads me to object to this addition.
I think it should be avoided altogether. But if this does end up becoming an addition to Firefox, Please make it opt-in ONLY.
Thanks,
Deniz
09-09-2024 04:46 AM
Absolutely not. These tools are not artificial intelligence, they are plagiarism machines that waste ridiculous amounts of energy to give false or misleading information or to steal from artists and creators. Absolutely not. Such things run counter to the principles of Firefox and have no place here.
09-09-2024 04:48 AM
I've been a loyal Firefox user since 1.5 and the Dell B130 that was my first laptop. I've gone so far as to argue with my IT department who are Google everything that I need Firefox on my work laptop instead of Chrome. This seems like a bad enough idea that I will search for a suitable alternative if this or similar proposals are advanced.
I don't think there's any good reason for adding AI hooks into the browser. The companies pushing these things have no respect for human beings at a baseline, and certainly no respect for the well-being and security of their users or people adjacent to them. In any way enabling that behavior seems at a baseline objectionable, and trusting anything required to more tightly integrate software made by people with an obvious and flagrant disregard for the well being of their peers seems like a massive and unnecessary security risk just so that someone can have ChatGPT or whatever summarize something they're too lazy to read.
Please do not go down this road.
09-09-2024 04:51 AM
Well, time to stop using or recommending Firefox. Though I guess if you abandon and back out this destructive non-feature, I could keep being enthusiastic about Firefox.
09-09-2024 04:53 AM
Just stop it. I've been using Firefox since it was first released, what? 20 years ago? If you implement this AI crap, I'll be moving to another browser. No one needs this except spammers and conmen.
09-09-2024 04:55 AM
Having used and enjoyed Firefox for several years, I can say that this would be a massively terrible idea. AI implementation would not serve any purpose except damaging your reputation and the quality of your product. It will not assist in anything. Please do not move forward with this.