Share your feedback on the AI services experiment in Nightly

[asafko]

Hi folks, 

In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it. 

If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here). 

We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.

Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!

[forthesnakes]

Couldn't have said it better myself. I used my laptop's last few dregs of battery while away from home to do the same because this is just nightmarish.

[moz_user]

I personally don't think this is a terrible idea, I'd rather have the vetting done by Firefox.

• That said I'd like an obvious way to opt in and out if and when this is baked into the main branch. And also better language around when the data is sent to the LLM providers- is OpenAI able to see all the data I can see on a web page at all times, or is it only the highlighted section that's sent when I hit the summarize button.
  • I would think it's the latter since I can see the chat log in the ChatGPT app but better communication in the FAQ would be good.
• A hotkey to open and close the sidebar without a prompt would be useful
• If I want to summarize a whole page- say the documentation of a function in a library, or an article is there a neat way to do this without a) selecting all the text on the page b) bundling the entire document as a text prompt (which pollutes the chat history). Perhaps one of the new "Agent" AIs have access to individual webpages instead of performing a web search

[ballistic]

I'm using Mistral in the sidebar, however if I try to chat with it, after it gave me summarization, nothing happens. My prompt just disappears. This is specific to Mistral and does not happen with other providers.

Also, any way we can use local ollama models with this feature, so that the data stays on the device?

Thanks,.

[majesticmini471]

Ollama is the only one that my team and I will ever trust. Do third-parties not love to dominate their users? Mozilla?!?!

[tea23]

Thanks for contributing disproportionately to climate change by engaging with inefficient generative A"I".

[brnzika10]

Where is deepseek r1, qwen 2.5max etc

[zy]

Not sure if it's worth it, you really seem to have made your choice, but let's do it anyway.

Would it be okay to add an optional feature that allows the user to easily access websites selling guns? I mean, this is optional and disabled by default, so the people that don't wanna see guns won't. I think you wouldn't do it, because guns probably don't fit in your values.

An other thing that is supposed to not fit in your values is disrespecting privacy. And guess what: generative AI does that. They train their AIs using data of people that weren't asked if they wanted to. This is atrociously against privacy. And you are associating yourself with that.

The fact I'm not the first one explaining that and the disrespect your have to us in your answer to Frisk make me think you understand the problem and just don't care? At this point, I don't think even removing this feature, fixing that other privacy option that is enabled by default and apologizing publicly would fix the trust you lost from us. But if privacy is still one of the values of Mozilla, that's what you would do anyway.

Hoping there will still be people fighting for our privacy like Mozilla used to do.

[Nobody_of_note]

Sorry to say you are wasting your time.  This is how Mozilla is monetizing going forward and they simply don't care what we think.

There are enough people who don't care or worse think AI in its current wasteful state is a great idea that they drown out those of us who know better.

I had a short conversation with some of their staff when I cancelled my donations after this announcement and they were clear it was just the way it was going to be.

[Manchester100]

So 'feedback' is somewhat of a misnomer.

You might be right. Reading what is said at the head of the thread more closely "...we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier" doesn't imply any reflection on backward steps even if they are to correct what users see as a misstep.
I hope we are wrong.

[Nobody_of_note]

I really do too, but I'm not waiting around to see if an organization pivoting to focus on money instead of principals is going to do the right thing.

History shows they never go back.

[MollyNoise]

                                                                                              anathema

                                                                                kill this

[forthesnakes]

I didn't think the Firefox logo was meant to represent the company's commitment to contributing to the devastating effects of global warming on the planet. This sucks. Firefox is the only browser I use for a reason--it's because I expect you to not do this kind of thing.

[eljoel]

No. Remove AI from Firefox.

[Reygle]

I think you'll find few Firefox users who want this.  I personally think this should be removed with an apology for being completely tone-deaf to why users use this application.

[MechaCrash]

Please keep the planet-burning plagiarism engine out of Firefox. It is dumb garbage that sucks and NOBODY WANTS THIS TRASH.

[rgooler_fs]

1. I don't want this on by default
2. This is dangerous to enable by default for people using Firefox in regulated industries, such as healthcare.
3. Mapping this to ctrl + x for mac users is a terrible idea, as thats a frequent typo for people who use OSX part time, and windows or linux as well.

[zackc]

I thought I had done everything I could to disable this, but buried in the (new?) "Firefox Labs" settings section, I found it enabled. It feels really gross to not even just not ask, but forcibly turn this on for users.

Edit: I just noticed OP's post says "It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it."

That's a lie.

[Nobody_of_note]

It wasn't at the time, but as I predicted back a few months ago .. now it is.  Before too much longer you won't be able to turn it off. 

[DianAria]

echoing the top comment to say NO. i switched to firefox to get away from data collection bull**bleep** like this: implementing "AI" will destroy my lingering trust in mozilla

[vlchen91]

I really do not appreciate that ctrl+x still opens up the AI chatbot, even if it is disabled. Rather, ctrl+x just enables it, which is not what I want, as I already had ctrl+x mapped to another shortcut, which now doesn't work anymore.

If this isn't disabled/removed, I sadly have to stop using Firefox 😕

[tea23]

Please remove it. Mozilla does not need to invest in A"I".

A"I" in its current form is wasting electricity and contributing to climate change, with absolutely 0 gain, as generative A"I" has no valid use cases. Please do not engage in willful environmental destruction.

[zy]

a little outside the subject, but even if i'm totally against generative AI, that is wrong to say there is no valid use case. Most use of it is to fake something, but I know it can be used to search something that can't be translated to keywords. But of course, if that was the main use of generative AI, that would've been a long time we would have way more optimized and respectful of privacy tools

[jhow]

Please make the shortcut something that is not ctrl+alt+x. It messes up the Google Docs keyboard shortcut for spell check.

[IAmNobody]

Please add DuckDuckGo AI to Firefox. If you're going to add AI it should be a private one with no training on your conversations, or at least add it to the list of options to choose from.

[go_awai]

Wow, now there are no good internet browsers left that don't do AI and/or Crypto.

[go_awai]

This technology is also used to undermine democracy by spreading misinformation and starting arguments online. You're choosing to be a part of it. History will judge you eventually. I will judge you now. 

You can still stop it. It's in your hands.

[go_awai]

So, anyone got a list of domains to block in my firewall to stop this from working?

[Nobody_of_note]

I don't, but I would warn that there are technologies they will eventually use to make that type of blocking much more difficult, like the ad/ad-blocker arms race.

[ooooo]

nobody wants this

[Fortyseven]

If this had Ollama support (and they ability to pick the model), then this would be super useful. As-is, locked into a cloud-based service: zero interest.

[mercenaryofoz]

can we get a hotkey to toggle the AI chatbar on and off

[moz_user]

Ctrl alt x

[AI-NoThankYou]

I'm thoroughly disappointed that such a contentious enhancement has been rolled out to everywhere I use Firefox without a clear, explicit and specific permission being required. I expected more of you, I am not your data harvesting source, I am a person with rights, thoughts and feelings.

[argishure]

The Ctrl+Alt+X keyboard shortcut doesn't work for English (India) keyboard. It does work for the English (US) keyboard although I like to use the English (India) one. Can you tell a solution for this?

If this could be released as an add-on that would help people set their own shortcuts, though idk if it would be able to send the title of the page to the chatbot then but I think Mozilla's own add-on might be capable of that. A lot of people would love this as an add-on please look into it. (I didn't like Orbit)

[user0]

Would love a keyboard shortcut to open/close the sidebar

[administrator2]

So far pretty good. I have a request - Can you link/integrate ai chatbot feature to appear also as a search engine? Reason being we can easily send requests to AI from address bar with "ai" or symbol "~ or something?" used as keyword.

* search can route to preferred ai chatbot
* can use search keywords to invoke ai
* quicker shortcut workflow (ctrl+N) instead of (ctrl+Alt+X)

[pdelrot]

Bonjour, I found "by chance" the Chatbot AI setting. Big inconvenience, I was not aware of it. I disabled it.
I don't need it, I don't want to test it. For personal reasons, ecological reasons...

A good pratice to encourage is to warn and ask all the users if they want to have this kind of AI feature or not. I accepted the "experiments" but I'd like to be aware of.

AI yes, but not for unuseless things.
AI for translating a page in another langage could be usefull and improve human interactions and sharing.
AI as typing replacement is a nightmare, I saw that in MS Teams for example, to suggest me answers. In programming suggestions are  disturbing.

Using Netscape/Firefox since near 20 years, thanks for the past work,
Pascal

[Heavyboots]

Can we just never, ever in any way have Spicy Autocomplete in Firefox, please?

Or at the very least, add a "Disable All AI" checkbox in the user prefs and leave it disabled by default?

[user_68]

What's wrong with functional database searches.  I can always find what I need with them.
AI?  Nope, too much superfluous nonsense.  And of course the abuse of copyright, including voice, and photos, without consent in an effort to make it "the norm". 
Toddler parrot AI does not embody the cuteness or the innocence of an endearing manipulative three year old like the efforts to encourage us to relate to it in that way.

[Francesco17]

I'm using it a lot, it's awesome! Thanks for your efforts, I hope one day I can collaborate with you to make Firefox even bigger and better❤️