Share your feedback on the AI services experiment in Nightly

[asafko]

Hi folks, 

In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it. 

If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here). 

We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.

Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!

[HoweeOPea]

I do not like this feature. I want to be able to find websites that have been researched by humans - scientists who are specialists in their fields. If I want a generic answer, I will go to a generic website. If I want an AI search, I can go to an AI website.

Suggestion - have a second box, under the general search box, for AI searches. Do not make it the default, primary search result. I have not seen one person who likes the feature.

[lackey]

If it's your search engine, DuckDuckGo lets you do this by prefixing your query with "!chat". It also protects your privacy from these companies by proxying your queries through their own servers, making it harder for AI companies to track you. 

Mozilla did none of this, despite rushing this feature out to release. 

[neutronstar87]

So.. you didn't even try out the feature. It is not even close to that. There's no AI search toolbar. It doesn't take over any of the existing features or UI elements. It's just a very small "✨" button that hovers over a selected text that you can click to open a sidebar equivalent in size to a history or a bookmark sidebar which has your choice of LLM's website open.

This is why I wrote that people are too skittish/volatile in this discussion. I bet most didn't even try the option like you and just assumed the worst and started downvoting.

[SabreWulf1986]

I don't want my mouse cursor icon changed into anything else on any piece of technology, ever.

[Nobody_of_note]

That's not even what concerns a lot of us that work in the industry.

Have you seen how many nuclear projects are being talking about to power more and more powerful models?  Can you maybe think what might be happening right now when we don't have that extra capacity online?  That's right, more fossil fuels to burn!!

Can you not see this toy is contributing in a very real way to the climate crisis we're already suffering from? 

And before some one thinks I'm anti nuclear, I'm not.  It would be amazing if we could produce our entire base load from nuclear and a renewable mix.  Once storage gets to a point that it's truly usable and not some idiotic render of a block stacking tower, we'll be ready for a fully renewable future.

Just because all you see is a button, or a poorly written block of text output doesn't mean there isn't a catastrophic waste of natural resources and extra pollution going on behind your toy.

Ask yourself why people on the inside, below the c-suite are trying to sound the alarm.

[Visnes]

Then make this an extension that is not directly integrated with the browser. That way you have to opt in by *installing* it if you absolutely want to use it..

[danibanani]

If Firefox has AI then there's no reason not to just go back to Google Chrome. At least you're giving us the option to turn it off, for now. If that ever changes I'm finding a new browser.

[SabreWulf1986]

Mozilla is cooked. Bring on the Ladybird browser.

[Stellario]

I don't know if this will seen, but I'd like it if you could make the textbox enter-to-send instead of having it start a new line. I think this is how most chatbots work.

[blucheavy]

Oh my god i don't want this

[jlries61]

This feature appears to be the one that is interfering with my copying and pasting.  Make it stop, or at least let me turn it off.

[neutronstar87]

Ok now I'm confused. Are we all talking about the same feature? First, for me, it isn't opt-out but rather opt-in under Firefox Labs (that is if you have selected to be part of Nightly experimental features, otherwise even this option is not visible). Secondly it doesn't interfere with the act of copying or pasting.

[SabreWulf1986]

Yup, this crap is invasive asf

[hu6fy56rd]

Gen AI and Advertising is the wrong path for you, almost no one in your user base wants this, you will loose all trust you worked so hard to build, don't listen to what Business consulting firms tell you

[dantu-a]

A key benifit of this for me is
> Nightly can be configured by advanced testers to use custom prompts and any compatible chatbot, such as llamafile

How do we actually configure this to use a local LLM?
The detailed instructions say it can be done, but not how to do it. I did get nightly installed but the settings look the same.

[Mohamed3nan]

I don’t understand why people complain when they can just turn it off. Yet, they stop others from making their lives easier by using this feature, lol.

By the way, I’d like to edit the built-in prompts—any suggestions?!

[weaf]

why not the other way around, you want it you install it. why do i have to disable everything i never want in the first place? and disabling it is not a solution, i just check and some of setting enable themself on next update! (suggestion of addon? no thank you) no need to copy MS and Google that force their app without the ability to uninstall them.

[YassinOmer]

I enabled access to AI services from the sidebar but am not seeing a shortcut or a button to use it.

[majesticmini471]

DISAGREE!!! It prompts all of Mozilla to be just like MegaSoft, CrApple, Scroogle, sCamsKunk, Sony, LG, Intel, Qualcomm, and Oracle Java. They do not care for users, whatsoever. Stupid bigwig corporations.

[maxdebe]

Hello, a function where i can prompt something myself after right-click would be super great ❤️
Thanks!

[SabreWulf1986]

Had some stupid little blue icon interfering with my mouse cursor across multiple webpages. Clicked on it and some AI chatbot junk popped up. I use Perplexity when and if I want it, I don't want this crap baked into anything. What are you Microsoft? I thought you fail if you get in the way of what the user is doing as a software dev? But what the fk would I know right.

[aac]

I found the same behavior annoying and lead me to deactivate.

[SCCDev]

Very good, but I missed having a keyboard shortcut to trigger the panel.

[HA]

Hi, great feature, thanks! One question: Can you allow the user to create his own "easy access" phrases, backed by a prompt the user can write? For example, currently there is "Summarize", "simplify" and "quiz me" (my german translations). How about users can enter a brief title for a task and back it by a prompt which they write in a text-field in Firefox.

[aac]

I find this feature valuable for me. I tried it with good results, but I had to deactivate it. The reason for that is that it had many false clicks. I can have something highlighted, then click by accident or just because, and it would open the AI chat. I think that if the trigger is away from this default behavior of mine, it would be more valuable for me.

[majesticmini471]

DISAGREE!!! It prompts all of Mozilla to be just like MegaSoft, CrApple, Scroogle, sCamsKunk, Sony, LG, Intel, Qualcomm, and Oracle Java. They do not care for users, whatsoever. Stupid bigwig corporations.

[SabreWulf1986]

Funny, every comment supporting this crap sound like easily manipulated people, bots or people who work at NVIDIA.

[carlaprice]

One thing - will the sidebar integration be customizable? I like a clean interface.

[Kaszebe]

Hi, how do we connect Oobabooga to this feature? I think it's great because I don't have to switch tabs.

[Sagitarius]

i would like to use perplexity AI as search engine. maybe for the next release... regards

[majesticmini471]

VETO

[Ahalii]

I have both ethical and environmental objections to AI. I will not be using any features you produce using it, so please save your time and money for something worthwhile.

[jynxyz]

hell no i hate google for a reason

[majesticmini471]

So true.

[Einhornyordle]

I can accept this as an optional opt-in feature like how it is now, but I have one major issue with it: The current implementation does not provide any value at all. Why is it a sidebar? Why do I still need to login with the service I want to use? I can just open a new tab and do that as well, there is no additional value!

If I want to chat with an AI I'm mainly using https://duck.ai. Why? I don't have to login, I don't have to pay, the privacy policy/deal duckduckgo has with the AI host forbids them to train their AIs on the data users submit via duck.ai so it comes down to being a free, private, neither signup nor payment required AI chat which is exactly how I like my AIs. The only downside is that the amount of prompts/messages per day. If you could integrate (something like) that into Firefox I'd love to use that, but in it's current state there's no reason why I would want this, it's just unnecessary bloat.

[majesticmini471]

Now DuckDuckGo has Artificial Intelligence? No wonder why all of the search results on their domain have completely sucked, this whole last month and counting. Oracle Java 6.17< and all associates, get lost!

[Wanderdüne]

Hello, I think the new feature is very well done and a good idea. I use ChatGPT and find it very practical that it is possible to forward marked text snippets to it using this function. What I would like to see is the option to define your own menu items including prompt texts. For example, I find the function for summarizing text snippets very useful, but I have already configured my own GPT for this, which I would like to use for this. I would also like it if you could specify whether the request should be processed in a temporary chat by ChatGPT, in other words, no separate entry is created in the chat history of ChatGPT. I hope you continue to pursue this integration 🙂

Btw. I deactivated the icon because it seems to cause issues with other plugins (DeepL, Language tool), so I only used the Right-Click-Menu solution on the selected text (that's the way I prefer anyway).

In summary, I would like to see:

• Create your own menu entries
• Forward to specific GPTs
• Support for “provisional chats” function

Edit: Why has my post received such a strange tag? 😞

[Nobody_of_note]

Try doing some research into the environmental impact of LLM and associated 'ai' products.  If you have a shred of care for the rest of us and the planet our children have to inherit, you'll stop using such wasteful technology. 

In it's current form it should never have been allowed to proliferate, but then corporate profits have always been more important that the people generating those profits.

[essia]

My organization recommends being careful with information typed online, whether in search engines or LLMs. Because I'm a geek, I mostly use local, pretrained models with Ollama. I understand it's a lab option, but only ethical, open and privacy-friendly bots (like some provided in Ollama and Llamafile), identified after careful examination by your AI team, should be offered in Firefox - and why not providing them in a friendly AI-model store!

[rasjonell]

Hey! Is there a way to open the chatbot sidebar with a keyboard shortcut?