Share your feedback on the AI services experiment in Nightly

[asafko]

Hi folks, 

In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it. 

If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here). 

We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.

Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!

[whybecauseiwill]

Please do not implement this. It goes against everything Firefox should stand for. There is no way using mass scraping of data promotes privacy. Generative ai has no ethical form nor practical use as it is full of stolen work and presents incorrect information as fact. Please please please do not add ai in any form even if we can opt out it is terrible all around. Don't fall for the trend of unethical tech be better! 

[rolingmetal]

Chatbots are horrible, and cause high blood pressure.

But an LLM, nor calling it "ai", summarizing search results can be usefull.

[brytning]

I've been a dedicated Firefox user for over a decade. Not interested in any AI features!

[rolingmetal]

Consider switching to Vivaldi. They are against integrating "ai" in their browser.

[Tetra]

Hello! Please don't implement AI! Thank you!

[guiltiest-gear]

There should not be any reason at all to be adding AI to Firefox. The browser should remain simple and private as it was supposed to be intended from the start. Not only is it a security risk, it's an unnecessary feature that would only serve to bloat the browser, opt-in or not. No one needs this and those concerned with privacy don't want it either. This is a browser that should be avoiding the terrible garbage of AI integration other browsers have. It feels like a gross violation of privacy to even have in in the browser, enabled or not. AI has no place in the browser, and it should stay out of the browser. The entire feature needs to be shot down before it can get any further. Further pushing this will inevitably shoot Firefox in the foot and cause a massive decrease in users, as these users value their privacy over any "conveniences" AI could possibly provide.

In short, absolutely not, there is not a singular reason anyone reasonable could think of to support the use of AI in Firefox, and many, many reasons against AI being in Firefox.

[P_Morningstar]

Please Don't.

[breawycker]

Please No

[NO-AI-EVER]

DEAR GOD NO!!! I AM NOT EXAGGERATING WHEN I SAY THIS WILL MAKE ME SWITCH TO DIFFERENT BROWSER!!!

[marsundercovers]

AI is pointless and garbage for the environment!! Firefox does not need AI!!!

[vincentj]

I'll say this as clear as I can:  F*ck this bullsh!t.

Fix the issues that your community has been requesting and voting on for years instead of building stupid AI crap that nobody has asked for.

[seuf]

Please no AI on Firefox. Keep it simple, fast ans reliable. With AI content, we can't trust it anymore

[Eidori]

Please DO NOT ADD IN AI. I trust Firefox as my browser, but if this goes through I will be looking at other options for browsers.

[Redbunny]

I have never asked for ai features nor do i want any ai features in any product, device, or servicce that i use. I am staunchly against ai in all commercial forms and believe that the power used should go towards more productive medical and engineering. Ai for the layman is nothing but a toy and another way to collect data and cause more unwanted spam to fill up inboxes at best, and an active endagerment to peoples personal health and well being at worst. Do not implement this as i will find any and every way to decouple it from the browser. Thank you, dont implement any of it, and have a nice day.

[human-collector]

I believe that AI is not constructed in a way that will assist your endeavours or work so I'd recommend not implementing it to firefox.

[blackflyingfox]

NOOOO i will literally switch to another browser if u do this

[Kaya]

Don't do that please. Please.

[acidburn]

for the love of god all that is holy good and or bringing joy into the world do not add ai anything to the strongest reaches of your power to anything in this program. your name is built from doing what competitors or monopolies you compete with do not or cannot. that is namely privacy and good business practices. this will be going against both of those things while torpedoing user experience. those THREE things i'm sure someone else could do better should you choose this path, and I will already be looking into alternatives since user feedback rarely changes anything regarding this issue. soooooo unfortunate to hear this!!!!!!

[persianpenname]

oh god PLEASE do not, AI is a terrible thing that eats energy and poops pollution and adds nothing beneficial in the meanwhile. AI as it currently exists is nothing but a bias machine built on a mountain of stolen works, we don't like it and we don't need it and on top of ALL of that it's actively making every product that adopts it worse at whatever the product does AND at protecting user privacy.

[EKL]

I literally fled chromium-browsers to avoid this **bleep** and now you too?!?!??!

[enemyofentropy]

😞

[Silkensword]

The use of the term "AI" for large language models is something that irks me- it is deceptive by association. What is going to be the plan for liability the first time someone poisons themselves based on misinformation the 'AI' spits out? The moral culpability? Equipping the browser with a tool as unreliable as the current state of "AI" is irresponsible. There is no algorithm for truth, to quote Tom Scott, who might've been quoting someone else, now that i think about it. If Firefox absolutely wants to play with LLM's, don't integrate it into the browser, but make it a separate, preferably not-included-by-default, program. I think a well-functioning LLM app that isn't a privacy nightmare could be something people might actually want.

[Silverthewd]

Please dont do that

[wolfstar5]

I would prefer not to have the AI features. They do not add useful functionality.

[MEEE]

Don't **bleep**ing bring AI onto Firefox for **bleep**s sake!

[MaggieEvelina]

Please, please don’t implement this; whatever benefits are hoped for cannot be worth the power demands of AI

[haingdc]

Anyone can help to get rid of **bleep**ing spam guy on this thread

[Necronome]

From a practical standpoint, Firefox's primary selling points are trust and ethics. As AI is very clearly not trusted by a large portion of the userbase, I believe it would be unwise to integrate such a feature into the browser, regardless of if the developers view the skepticism as unfounded.

Also, it would be playing an unwinnable game of "catchup" with the ongoing fad on all other major browsers instead of making a bold statement of "Go use an extension or bookmark a website", which would resonate with the growing market of people frustrated with the encroaching of AI, whether out of neo-Luddism, ethics, or simply bad experiences.

[amazingakita]

absolutely not. don't do this. let the AI craze die down, like nfts did, then review why you want AI. we don't need this, it's a massive privacy breach, let alone the ethical & environmental problems associated with generative AI.

[rolingmetal]

No Firefox, this is not the way.

People not wanting "ai" in their browsers should consider switching to Vivaldi.

[aucun]

Please do not integrate "AI" features in one of the last places to avoid this plague. LLMs cannot coherently and qualitatively provide any of the features you mention (summarisation, rephrasing, questions based on the excerpt) and I don't want to be part of even more ecological harm. Without even mentioning the workers' rights issues. Very saddened and disappointed by these news, if you roll out this feature more widely, me and many others will have to find another browser.

[MFF420]

We do not want AI ANYTHING! Please don't incorporate AI, it is so wasteful of water and energy. We are experiencing climate collapse and AI is exacerbating it! AI also steals from artists and other creatives. 

[HungryBeldum]

Hey don't do this.

[Rabblit]

Mozilla is to me, the last bastion of the Internet against the google/apple beast. I go to it because all that it offers and I love AI not being part of it. I cannot stress how much I don't want any AI implementation. Any examples of it in other software have been, mildly speaking horsesht. I don't think this is what Firefox is missing at all.

[rolingmetal]

I hate side bars, more then I dislike llm's.
When I close the chat side bar how do I get it back? There should be a button for that.
And you should probably have a look how DuckDuckGo anonymizes chat. I will never login or accept the cookies for those surveillance companies.
But I would prefer, you not add this "ai" experiment to Firefox. It serves no purpose and others can probably do it better. So I will disable this again, and start using the Vivaldi browser.

[Melhadf]

See what you've done firefox, you've made me create an account to say this...

Take your "AI" and shove it using your 7 fingered hands that the "AI" generated from stolen works.

[Shavie]

DO NOT

[TheSteelChimera]

Using AI of any kind in Firefox is just going to present a massive security leak no matter how many assurance are made, because those privacy violations are the backbone of how AI models function. That is simply an incontrovertible fact.

The entire reason I, and many other people, are using Firefox in the first place is because this is one of the very few browsers that does not have these kinds of features forced onto us. If you add AI, in any capacity even as an "optional" tool, people will leave. As clearly evidenced by the responses above mine (and probably below lbr).

Idk much about finance, but this sounds like a very risky business decision. To gamble with losing your intended clientele..

[Ssparkle]

Just adding my voice to the chorus of "No" in the slim hope that you might actually listen to us.

But in my experience, posts like this aren't actually about "getting feedback", but rather more of a release preview. I'm sure you're about to implement this regardless of what the majority of your userbase actually wants. The fact that you're ignoring the majority of the dissenting posts while replying to every comment who says they want this garbage is very telling.

I've used Firefox exclusively since 2009, and I've been a huge proponent of it on social media like Twitter and tumblr, trying to convince people to move away from Chrome specifically because Firefox was supposed to be the safer, better browser, made by a company who gave half a care about its users. You're making a liar out of me and everyone else who spoke up for you.

I will be severely disappointed if I have to figure out a new browser because you all listened to some AI tech bro nonsense and decided to implement a feature that is harmful to people's privacy and to the planet. But make no mistake: I will do so if I must. As will many more, as you can see from the response here. And without any good reason to switch from Chrome, I can't see many new users in Firefox's future.

Why would you implement something that will spell your own demise? It makes no sense.

[feifiefofum]

no thanks