06-21-2024 11:55 AM - last edited on 10-18-2024 02:19 PM by Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-09-2024 05:32 PM
AI is the worst thing to add to Firefox. I might finally have to install some other browser if you do 😕
09-09-2024 05:33 PM
If y'all (Mozilla) are wondering why this thread is being spammed its because an anti-ai author with a very large anti-ai following posted a link to this page on Tumblr telling them to come here and spam the thread. So, if it seems like y'all have an inorganically large amount of responses here, it's because they aren't occurring organically, its an attempt to have the feature removed because the author doesn't "believe" in the use of AI and is weaponizing their followers in response to the feature. Just thought y'all should know, this thread likely won't represent a fair cross section of average users thoughts anymore and is likely going to skew heavily toward panning this feature because of this 4000+ response post urging people to sign up to post in this thread to have the feature removed. Just thought you should know.
09-09-2024 05:38 PM
A lot of Tumblr users use Firefox and don't like AI. The post is telling them what's happening and they're speaking their mind on it. I'm one of the people who saw the post and came here to say keep that bs out of Firefox, a service I've been using for over a decade. If it weren't for the post I wouldn't of known.
09-09-2024 11:34 PM
Same! Also a tumblr user, and I have been using firefox for over a decade, and have made multiple posts on my blog and other socials promoting the usage of Firefox to friends, family, and followers over the usage of chrome, and the addition of LLM features to the browser goes against everything that I have believed and understood to be true about the brand of Firefox. I like that Firefox doesn't have LLM nonsense in it, and that it is significantly more lightweight than chromium browsers. Because of this, it runs spiffilly on my 12 year old mac, and I suspect that the addition of LLM features would significantly decrease performance on low spec hardware machines.
09-09-2024 05:39 PM
Incorrect, at least in my case. Though I became aware of this development through the feed of a person I follow, my reaction is independent of that person's view. I have my own reasons to reject such uses of Applied Algorithms (I refuse to call it AI), and do not simply regurgitate other people's viewpoints, no matter how much I respect them.
09-09-2024 05:43 PM
It's not a weaponization of followers. It's just them being on tumblr and knowing that a lot of tumblr uses firefox. They are basically just saying, 'Hey Firefox, users...do you see this **bleep**?' It's not inorganic, it's informed. It was a PSA, not a bullying campaign. This IS the firefox user base. We all use it and we all care and we would not have known there was any recourse at all otherwise because the average user doesn't hang out in wherever the **bleep** this place is. Sorry your feelings are hurt that you are in a minority, but there it is.
09-09-2024 05:55 PM
This feels disengenuous as many people including me did not come from there, and have no idea who that is or their viewpoints, do randomly claiming everyone against putting a learning algorithm or "ai" into a good search engine when it has majorly messed up every other search engine that tried to incorporate it is some real bs leading stuff
09-09-2024 06:03 PM
Is that Tumblr? I'm not on Tumblr. I still think AI sucks. Thank you for the opportunity to clarify.
09-09-2024 06:03 PM
Lol, found the ai tech bro who knows nothing about what is actually going on. News flash, Tumblr users are the main group who promote this browser. And most of us would prefer it remain a good web browser instead of adding to the already horrendous amount of damage and plagiarism that generative technology is causing. Some of us actually want to keep our information and work private instead of it being stollen to give billion dollar companies more money. Screw you, and screw ‘AI’.
09-09-2024 05:34 PM
We don't want this. No one in their right mind wants all these "ai" features. I understand the pressure to stay competitive and not seem left behind, but in the same way mozilla has been garnering more and more goodwill for the data protection features being slashed in competitors, you will instantly lose a lot of it by giving into this senseless and useless trend. Please choose to be better.
09-09-2024 05:36 PM
Please don't.
09-09-2024 05:38 PM
I don't understand the point of integrating ""AI"" (LLM chatbot) into Firefox . Firefox is a web browser. It's meant to open and display web pages, that's why we all use it. You can already use Firefox to visit an ""AI"" website if you would like to. ""AI"" is already being shoved into every level of software as it is. Windows is already pushing it on the OS. Why would you need ""AI"" as a sidebar in your web browser when it's already being shoved into every other application on the computer, down to the OS itself? I don't understand what the use case for this could even be. And of course, the privacy and data usage concerns that come with these so-called AI tools brings many problems along with it that the majority of your userbase are coming to Firefox to avoid.
Please use your time and resources for something that will actually improve Firefox as a web browser.
09-09-2024 05:38 PM
please don't. please don't. i'm begging you, firefox is the last browser i trust, please don't pollute it with AI bull**bleep**. AI is a scam, it's bloat, it simply doesn't work, and will never work, and will never be wanted. please listen to us, please abandon AI for firefox.
09-09-2024 05:40 PM
I'd prefer to keep generative AI nonsense as far from all of my equipment as possible. If this continues, I will no longer be able to recommend Firefox to those who trust my opinions on technology.
09-09-2024 05:41 PM
Bad idea
09-09-2024 05:44 PM
Please do NO add AI, for the love of everything in this world, the Internet is already crowded with poorly-generated false information and fake images, please please PLEASE DO NOT ADD AI
09-09-2024 05:45 PM
Please don't add AI features to Firefox. It's a risk to privacy. As others have said, I would prefer for Firefox to focus on being a secure, privacy-focused browser.
09-09-2024 05:46 PM
Hi! My feedback is that this makes me deeply unhappy to see and I'd really prefer Firefox not deal with AI at all. I understand that it's "optional" but it makes it really hard for me to want to continue recommending Firefox as a browser when it's dabbling in the same unconscionable AI bs as every other browser. Let Firefox stay "The Best Option!" and not "The Less Of All Evils". No AI, please.
09-09-2024 05:46 PM
For the love of God no, I moved to your browser specifically to get away from all the idoits incorporating ai **bleep**
09-09-2024 05:46 PM
I don't see the reason for implementing this into the browser itself. It's easily done by extensions and just causes controversy. There are much better uses of development time.
09-09-2024 05:49 PM
Please please don't do this, as more companies take on more AI features, the more dire an environmental impact it has. AI has infected the internet with misinformation and stolen work, it'd be a terrible shame for the last good browser to bring more of this to the virtual landscape.
This isn't something your users want, please don't do this.
09-09-2024 05:51 PM
I'm begging you, stop trying to be an AI company.
JUST MAKE A BROWSER.
That's all you need to do.
It's one job. You can do that job. It doesn't have to be boring. You can do a really good job at it, and be proud of that work. It is important, good work.
STOP DOING AI.
09-09-2024 05:51 PM
DO NOT. BAD BAD BAD BAD. PUT IT AWAY. JUST DONT.
09-09-2024 05:53 PM
Echoing the sentiment disapproving of the addition of ai to Firefox. As another user puts it, Firefox's priority on privacy is the reason I use it and implementing ai features just throws my trust right out. I *will* figure out how to get a fork without these features if they are implemented, and it seems I won't have too much trouble if many others here share the same feeling.
09-09-2024 05:55 PM
Do not do this, it goes against everything Firefox is meant to stand for
09-09-2024 05:57 PM
Aside from the strong public sentiment that does not have an interest in AI, its general 'AI for everything' application is proven to cause sharp decreases in quality of service and an increase of errors. Not to mention the likelihood of troubled legal territory. I would emphatically recommend discontinuing any implementation of AI until further notice.
09-09-2024 05:57 PM
Get rid of it, please.
09-09-2024 05:58 PM
PLEASE PLEASE NO.
09-09-2024 05:59 PM
Absolutely do not go in this direction. You will riddle your browser with nothing more than misinformation, theft, and soulless corporation staining- not to mention the horrible environmental impact AI has. The world is already burning, I'd rather not have the most tolerable browser speed that up by introducing a feature that guzzles down water like it's infinite and not required for our very lives.
09-09-2024 06:00 PM
Terrible idea. Bringing AI into Firefox is not an improvement, it's sabotage. This is the only browser I trust, and the fact that it isn't shot through with computer generated misinformation/lies/hogwash is a big reason for that. I appreciate that this is opt-in, at the very least, but the introduction at all is a misstep.
09-09-2024 06:01 PM - edited 09-09-2024 06:05 PM
Hi I dont agree with the Idea of adding AI to firefox. I in fact use firefox because it doesnt have AI which is a grossly harmful practice to the environment and also due to the lack of consent and transparency that AI in general seems to be trained on.
Im also not super thrilled that I had to make an account in order to deliver this feedback. I would much prefer that time and development is spent on making secure and high performing web browsers. Adding AI, depending on how integrated it became and how easy it is to remove for the non tech savvy lay person is highly likely to drive me away from Firefox.
09-09-2024 06:04 PM
I also say no. AI is either grossly inaccurate or is trained by stealing people’s writing. We don’t want it on Firefox.
09-09-2024 06:04 PM
Don't. Just don't. AI is garbage and needs so much electricity just to run that it's harming the environment. Generative AI is putting actual artists and authors out of work by stealing their art. Google and Opera incorporating AI is the whole reason I switched to Firefox, please don't do this.
09-09-2024 06:05 PM
Let me make this clear and simple: I started an account which I will likely not use again purely to tell you not to do this.
I do not want AI services on Firefox. You cannot sell it to me, you cannot rehabilitate its image, you can only damage your own with it. More well-funded PR departments than yours have tried.
I would explain why, but the hordes of people much more well-informed than I have already given you an exhaustive list of reasons why you should not be even considering AI; if none of these sway you, nothing will.
I will keep it simple. If you add AI to Firefox, in any way, shape or form, I will change browsers as a direct consequence.
09-09-2024 06:07 PM
ABSOLUTELY NOT. NO AI EVER
09-09-2024 06:08 PM
Oh absolutely not, thank you. I switched to Firefox to get away from the AI and privacy-invading algorithms, and I'd really hate to have to go looking for another browser again. I was just starting to get decent at basic code.
AI is unethical, unreliable, unregulated and unnecessary. Thanks for considering an opt-out option, but to add these features at all is going to erode my trust in the platform.
09-09-2024 06:09 PM
No. NO. NO!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO MORE AI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE'RE ON FIREFOX TO GET AWAY FROM THIS STOP IT!!!!!!!!!
Thanks.
09-09-2024 06:09 PM
If you add AI garbage to Firefox I will be forced to use a different browser.
09-09-2024 06:09 PM
Mozilla has lost the plot. No one is hoping for Firefox to be a clone of all the other terrible browsers. Please stop copying the mistakes of others in a desperate attempt to fit in.
09-09-2024 06:10 PM
Please don't put AI in or around Firefox. It would completely undermine the reasons I use this browser in the first place. Can we please have one haven from that mess??